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Author:  Lancastrian [ Sun Jan 18, 2015 10:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Top Lock Gate

I haven't seen a top lock gate on an angle like this one, but I can't say it's wrong. Is it correct or is the model manufacturer using his own idea of creativity?

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Author:  Graham and Jo [ Mon Jan 19, 2015 8:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Top Lock Gate

Looks like a wide lock gate in a narrow lock to me. Cheers Graham

Author:  Lancastrian [ Mon Jan 19, 2015 9:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Top Lock Gate

On checking the photograph, why is the gate on an angle but the housing for it to close into isn't. Wouldn't this cause undue wear on the edge of the gate, and possible cause leaks.

Author:  lauriebooth [ Mon Jan 19, 2015 9:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Top Lock Gate

Never seen this before on a lock.

Author:  Thumper [ Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:32 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Top Lock Gate

That's got to be wrong? Matching the angle of the cill to the gate would also make fitting a watertight gate so much harder. I've certainly never seen a single top gate that wasn't perpendicular to the side walls of the lock. I think Graham's right. The modelmaker had a spare wide-beam gate and couldn't be bothered to make a smaller one to fit the narrow lock.

The boat also seems to be to the wrong scale? Too much gap either side and not long enough!

Author:  Lancastrian [ Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Top Lock Gate

I think I will e-mail the manufacturer in a few days with the comments made and ask for a response to them. He possibly doesn't realise that there are errors with his locks.

Author:  Lancastrian [ Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Top Lock Gate

I have sent a query and will post the response, if I get one. Meanwhile I need to look for some suitable lock gates in N scale for a narrow canal.

There are some here that may be suitable if there are no fiddly bits to assemble.
http://www.langleymodels.co.uk/acatalog ... s__52.html

Author:  Lancastrian [ Tue Jan 20, 2015 8:22 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Top Lock Gate

Lancastrian wrote:
I have sent a query and will post the response, if I get one. Meanwhile I need to look for some suitable lock gates in N scale for a narrow canal.

There are some here that may be suitable if there are no fiddly bits to assemble.
http://www.langleymodels.co.uk/acatalog ... s__52.html
The response from Mountford Models Ltd.:

Dear Mr Brown,

Thank you for your interest in our products. Regarding the Lock model it is
based on the actual lock quite close to us at the junction of Lockoford lane
and the A61 Chesterfield to Sheffield road. As we know nothing about such
things we followed the design and sizing of the actual lock itself VERY
CLOSELY when creating our model. The design of the narrow boat was taken
from information received and if we have undersized it we are very pleased
to get your expert advice in the matter and will take up this with our
designers for future production.

Yours sincerely,
D. Love
Managing Director
Mountford Models Ltd.


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Is anyone in the position to get a photograph please?

Author:  lauriebooth [ Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Top Lock Gate

I've been onto Google Earth and it looks like a normal lock to me. Assuming I have the right lock.
S41 0TQ

Author:  Lancastrian [ Tue Jan 20, 2015 8:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Top Lock Gate

lauriebooth wrote:
I've been onto Google Earth and it looks like a normal lock to me. Assuming I have the right lock.
S41 0TQ
I did earlier and couldn't see any differences. I have contacted CRT for their views.

Author:  Thumper [ Wed Jan 21, 2015 12:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Top Lock Gate

In case it helps, here is a photograph I found associated with Google Earth showing the lock in question, and also an image from Google Earth itself. Both appear to show a conventional single top gate.

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There's also a photo of Tapton Lock on this blog, from the narrowboat Holderness:
http://nbholderness.blogspot.co.uk/2014 ... field.html

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Author:  Lancastrian [ Wed Jan 21, 2015 8:24 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Top Lock Gate

Thank you Thumper.

I wonder if the photograph used for the model had a slightly open gate and the model make assumed that's how it should be not realising the error.

I also wonder just how many people have bought this model not knowing about locks and perhaps even more embarrassing putting it in a display layout and having it commented on at exhibitions.

Author:  lauriebooth [ Wed Jan 21, 2015 9:10 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Top Lock Gate

Thumper wrote:
In case it helps, here is a photograph I found associated with Google Earth showing the lock in question, and also an image from Google Earth itself. Both appear to show a conventional single top gate.

Image

Image

There's also a photo of Tapton Lock on this blog, from the narrowboat Holderness:
http://nbholderness.blogspot.co.uk/2014 ... field.html

Image

Thanks Thumper
:)

Author:  Lancastrian [ Wed Jan 21, 2015 9:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Top Lock Gate

I feel that the photographs and BLOG, thanks Laurie, confirm that the gate is as we would expect it to be.

I am not sre if I should send theses photographs to the boss at Mountford Models Ltd.

Author:  lauriebooth [ Wed Jan 21, 2015 11:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Top Lock Gate

Lancastrian wrote:
I feel that the photographs and BLOG, thanks Laurie, confirm that the gate is as we would expect it to be.

I am not sre if I should send theses photographs to the boss at Mountford Models Ltd.

In theory you will be doing them a favor.

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